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ken, i don't find the commercials offensive, but insurance is there for emergencies, you don't encourage ways to use it. send me an e-mail to kelly. this is the kelly file. >>> it is a democratic civil war in washington. >> the president should honor the commitment to federal government and let those people keep what they got. >> will the president be able to weather this storm? >> obama care navigators caught on tape telling you to lie. >> don't get yourself in trouble by declaring it now. >> we have the explosive hidden camera video. >>> plus, nfl legend mike ditka with the latest developments on the bullying scandal. "hannity" starts right now. welcome to "hannity." there is a mutiny growing in the democratic party against president obama and the entire staff. we have the proof. president clinton, the man that president obama turned to, claiming that the president's promise, if you like your plan and doctor you can keep your plan and doctor. watch this. >> so i personally believe even if it takes a change in the law, the president should honor his commitment to federal gov
they don't have the numbers. >> no, we don't have that data. we're not going to have that data on an hourly basis. >> i don't have the numbers. >> how many have signed up thus far? >> fully enrolled? i can't tell you because i don't know. >> okay, greg, they still don't know and they aren't projected to know any time soon. >> yes, six people. there are more bodies in beckle's bed right now than that. >> ew. >> the upside, the only number piers morgan beats in the demo. thought i'd get a piers morgan jab in. no, it's incredible. it's amazing. it's almost as though you can't be this incompetent by accident. it's like there's a secret olympic event among bureaucrats to see how bad they can be. this is like incredible. it's almost like inspiring how awful they are. >> how could this happen? you look back at president obama. the first digital president. how well he ran his campaign. do you think david axelrod would have let only six people per day donate to obama's re-election? i doubt that. >> or if they would have admitted it. when gur governing, it's different. if the president wants an answe
. this mocker reis not in the norm. don't blame me if i enjoy it especially over the last six years comedians have suffered from obama jokes unable to poop a single one. now it is coming oh you tell. communie even with a web site h can't get it up. obama has gone from cloud nine to punch line which is encouraging if it ends there. all of those senators that met with the president in a panic painted by the obama be care tured brush they need your help, out the door, who cares if they are panicking it's too late. they have voted for obamacare is like the titanic voting for the iceburg. they may be bailing on obamacare but it is bailing on them. if that's not part of the plan despite all of these whity gags talking about obamacare truly the joke is on all of us. >> that's not a hangover monologue, i don't know. >> you think president obama is crushed that he has lost the stars? >> couldn't get the web site up. >> they cut away, the song is funny it was about two minutes long we showed 35 seconds. it was hilarious they cut to the audience, the real true republican conservatives the heart and soul
, and greece and italy. when it comes time to vote, they will realize, don't ruin a good thing. neil: you would think. a lot of liberal are not great at math, realizing the big return you get from having a competitive economy, a lot of u.s. firms have congregated there and started opening up shop in switzerland, they don't want to chase that away. but some social democrats in switzerland say it is not worth. surely the swiss population must see that is screwy. >> this is why i predict this will be defeated. switzerland is the fourth freest economy in the world, they attract a lot of investment not just banks major multinationals like nestles and schindler, they use switzerland as their location for european manufacturing, and involvement. whether they are u.s. firms or local swiss firms, the swiss people are not going to wreck that, i would hope they shouldn't, you could go back 6 years in the past -- 60 years in the past, and new york was our richest most prosperous state, and yet they have high taxes, they are losing jobs to other states. neil: you would look at france, and some other country
] >> um-hum. because you are making money on a cash basis. >> okay. >> don't get yourself in trouble by declaring it now. >> exactly. >> yeah. it didn't happen. [ laughter ] >> yuck yuck yuck. so that navigator in training suggesting fraud. on another occasion, the project veritas under cover asked about smoking. >> one more question. >> um-huh. >> they have -- i don't know where it says. it says something about if you like you smoke or something like that. i really don't like. >> >> you lie. >> so this time the navigator suggesting deceit. going forward the president should delay the affordable healthcare act for a. in that time the it could be fixed by responsible people. guide americans through the healthcare maize. i'm a simple man as you know. if this is a good program, the folks are going to know it so there is no threat to the affordable healthcare act with a delay, none. in fact, the program should be stronger a year from now, right, mr. president? let's delay it. that's the memo. joining us from washington mary katharineham and juan williams both fox news analyst. juan, how
? it's the bigotry of low standards. you just don't expect compensate from a black leader and by smearing helpful critics, your own prejudice slips by.bu you weren't hiding. you had the false armor of political correctness as cover. but as everyone is finally admitting, the emperor in the white house has no clothes. even obama admits obamacare is disaster. i guess he's racist, too. hopefully this whole thing is ending because race baiting provided a shield that allowed obama to fail because everybody was scared. >> yep. so no one focused on what was in the bill. they were too busy focusing on who is credit criticizing him and are there racial undertones to that criticizing. you said he has no clothes. so you're anti-nudist now. >> that's so true.s i should be encouraging that. although if you look at the people that work for him, i don't want him to be nude. bob, isn't the problem obvious that, if all criticism is deemed racist, then no one willr criticize? >> i don't agree with the premise. i know you're going to pick out -- we've got some sound on tape here about some li
post-hawk they are thinking, well, how can we fix this? i don't see how they fix this individual policy issue. as i said, the insurance companies, greta, moved on. they are businesses. they have to budget departments and they have to figure out the risk assessment. they already tried to figure out how to deal with obama care. you are going to tell the insurance companies some type of government order? it is not going to happen. fanta fantasy. bill clinton said it was a fantasy during the primary of 2008. off the cuff comment. bill clinton was right in 2008. >> i want to ask you about the obama care ads in the colorado consumer health initiative. encouraging women to take care of the obama care coverage of birth control. they certainly are subtle. show women talking about hot men and showing actor ryan gosling. >> i like hot men. >> as i said before -- >> you were going to talk about -- these ads, okay, are -- they are actually one -- one is more absurd than the other. i think if you ask president obama, you want your daughters to look at this. this is what young women should aspire sno
and have no other option? just a minute. i didn't hear that. you don't have a plan? but you're out there making statements attacking the president's health care plan and you don't have a plan yourself? did you tell that to the media you're spouting your criticism? did you tell them you're empty handed? that you're all about talking down the affordable care act but you've got nothing to offer the cancer patients out there stuck without insurance or all the other people with pre-existing conditions? i have a plan which is perfect for you. it's what we used to say in the schoolyard. put up or shut up. alex wagner is the host of "now" and eugene robinson is a columnist for the "washington post" and a msnbc political analyst. it seems some of the bold print names we read when everybody's talking down health care, and it's fair enough for somebody to have clean hands to do it. you hear comments from people with no health care plan, never did have a health care plan, belong to a party that doesn't even feel a shame about having none. yet they offer it up to us in the big media as sidewalk
we said. he wasn't a liar back then, i don't think. he may have been told that. maybe he honestly was told by his people's handlers you're not going to be thrown off. >> disagree. >> maybe he was. give him the benefit of the doubt. up until he realized what's going on, he may not have lied. he looked to this group and said, i said you can keep it if things don't change and if. last night the president is a liar last night. >> i disagree. he's not lying. he's footnoting. footnoting is common. he does this with michelle. michelle, i quit smoking. cigarettes. i do it all the time. obama loves to campaign. he's not big on leading. what happens when you campaign a lot is, your words are weightless. in a way he's like a talk show host who can keep talking and talking and talking and realize that there is never any action committed to what we are doing as the talk show host. however, he is president. he is not a talk show host. therefore, his words have consequence. they have action. he doesn't realize that. he thinks in a way what he is doing right now is beneath him. there is another j
knew this day would come. we don't know how badly the country would be danieled. according to a new poll, president obama's approval rating plummeted to 37%. that is nine-point drop from last month. when asked what should happen to obama care, only 7% of those polled said it should be kept as is. 48% said some changes were needed and a staggering 43% said the law should be repealed. it isn't just hard-working taxpayers losing faith in the president. so are members of his own party. quote, sources who attended a meeting of house chiefs of staff on monday say the room was seething with anger over the immense damage being done to the democratic party. there was talk of scrapping roll-out events for the affordable care act. one chief of staff said, here we are, we are supposed to be selling this to people and it's all screwed up. this either gets fixed or could be the demise of the democratic party. it probably the worst i have seen it. an aide sh it's bad, really bad. according to fox news.com a new and independent analysis kucked by the american enterprise institute warns of a ticking
. that is all the time we have . >> people don't have gaps in coverage. that's the responsibility i think all of us as regulators share. >> in terms of the reinstatement, what is the incentive for insurance company if they sent out cancellation notices? what would the incentive to go back and rewrite those policies? >> the problem would be if those folks who were canceled can't get on this flawed website and are not able to find out alternative coverage, find that alternative coverage, then the insurance company that sent the cancellation notice looks like the bad guy. i don't think they want that. they also want to find a way to kind of provide a little bit of a -- close the gap a little bit so that people don't fall through the cracks here, partly because and mostly because they weren't able to go on that website when they got those cancellation letters to find out what would be available for them. >> in terms of policies that would be canceled because they didn't meet the requirements of obama care that would go into the exchange so people theoretically can access the exchange and choose t
for someone else's words. i don't know why he won't and doesn't admit that they took the words and took credit. this is something you learn in high school. why not remember the ruls and follow them. if you don't set up the words as borrowed, you're taking credit for them yourselves. that's unacceptable. david corn of mother jones and josh is founder of talking points memo. let's get to the evidence that senator paul has plagiarized. this book, "government bullies" complete with paul's picture and name on the top contains a large section lifted verbatim from a heritage foundation report. the copied second, 1318 words, is by far the most significant instance reported so far of paul borrowing language from other published material. well, the website buzzfeed went on to say there is a link to the heritage report in the back of his book but did not say the words were a direct lift. from page 132 of his book, quote, this prosecution also reveals the risks of federalizing criminal law. observers have long warned against allowing the federal government to encroach on the traditional state function of
, take credit for someone else's words. i don't know why he won't and doesn't admit that they took the words and took credit. this is something you learn in high school. why not remember the rules and follow them. if you don't set up the words as borrowed, you're taking credit for them yourselves. that's unacceptable. david corn of mother jones and josh marshall is founder of talking points memo. let's get to the evidence that senator paul has plagiarized. this book, "government bullies" complete with paul's picture and name on the top contains a large section lifted verbatim from a heritage foundation report. the copied second, 1318 words, is by far the most significant instance reported so far of paul borrowing language from other published material. well, the website buzzfeed went on to say there is a link to the heritage report in the back of his book but did not say the words were a direct lift. from page 132 of his book, quote, this prosecution also reveals the risks of federalizing criminal law. observers have long warned against allowing the federal government to encroach o
, everyone. don lemon here in the cnn newsroom. thank you so much for joining us. we are watching a situation right now in birmingham, alabama. not sure yet how serious it is for if there is -- this is just out of abundance of caution. but international airport there is under a a security alert now. at least one terminal as been evacuated. h th is at birmingham shut ellsworth international our port. here is what we know, not that much pf airport police officers say they are responding to a threat they received about 4:00 p.m. local time about two hours ago. one terminal was evacuated. we are closely watching what is happening in birmingham. we will update you as soon as we know something. well watch closely because of what happened at los angeles international airport last week. new details are emerging tonight. prosecutors say the shooter fired at point blank range at officer hernandez, who then crumbled to the floor. he got on the escalatoescalatort up. officers hernandez squirming around. road the escalator back down and shot him. two other tsa officers were wounded and treated at hospital
that little electric dance for us? i don't know -- >> i'm not sure why we were playing eye it's electric" but you can't help but get that awful dance out of your head. anybody that has been to a wedding in the last 15 years has seen that. >> weddings, anyway, we have some corporate news to get you caught up on this morning. you're not going to believe this one. the group includes holders of more than half of the $34.6 billion of preferred sars in the company. the plan reportedly being pitched as a way to bring tens of billions of dollars of private capital back into the capital. treasury has controlled fannie and freddie, of course, for the last five years. >>> johnson & johnson agreed to what could be a $4 billion settlement over hip implants. the deal could include thousands injured. a tentative plan must win court approval. >>> starbucks will be paying kraft food nearly $278 billion after it ended the grocery deal early. it includes damages and legal fees. mondalieze will receive all proceeds from the starbucks/kraft dispute. >> it seems like a lot of money. >> and don't forget, starb
going on. it is a while in dc circles they don't get along. a lot of people are speculating why he would do that. this didn't help president obama at all. because he now hads to do something. what do you do? do you continue to have 50,000 enrollees or do you make changes? jay carney said we understand what he had to say. maybe the president is looking it all up. >> i will make one last point. he could look at it another way. bill clinton real lipped president obama today. he basically took away the dam and now the water can flow out obama can say i am going to have to make some changes ear. it stops the guesswork out of it. it could be a forcing action. >> the only thing i thought about this i talked to different people, it would be to delay the penalty. there are a number of bills out there. mary landrieu has a bill out there. president clinton said he should honor the commitment. there's no way you can honor the commitments. you can'ten honor them. the plans are gone unless you have a time machine you can fix these mandates there is no way you can fix this thing? what do you think they
of what you have heard today? why don't you surmise what you have heard in the last couple of days? >> this is one of the greatest management break downs one could find. we had the chief information and technology people working for the president on this signature project and to a person they would not take responsibility. in fact, when questioned they couldn't name the person who was responsible for this failure to launch and one of the individuals, mr. chow, implied there wasn't a failure. that it sort of worked. of course he wasn't one that got in or 240 that managed to sign up by the second day. i guess he doesn't know what failure is. >> let's go to some of the risk issues. >> the fact they launched it with navigators with no criminal background checks, we learned there was a memo issued and they found prior to the launch two memos and it said the threat and risk potential to the system is limitless. limitless. he never saw the memo? he's the chief project manager? congressman jordan, how is that possible? >> i think what's more scary is someone did see it. someone knew this s
of the region and said the zionist regime is doomed to destruction. we don't have full access and inspection of every site. only the ones they designated that it's okay. why would america take the deal and open up billions. they now have time and money to ease pressure and continue their program. >> exactly, sean. this is terrible. i think most americans will be opposed to it. not just republicans in congress but democratic members as well. chuck schumer in new york. >> bob menendez in new jersey. >> senator menendez chairs the foreign relations committee. it's terrible and i think there will be a reaction in congress against it. >> john bolton has a point though. this was about stopping israel from defending itself. if you go back to february of 2012, leon panetta told the washington post they would attack april, may or june. you don't betray a friend like that. at the end of march when they were afraid they were going to attack they released that they would use azerbajan. then they wouldn't allow it. >> israel is alone. >> they are negotiating with france, saudi arabia. >> the saudis were
, chris ready. james, good to see you. clinton as usual has the story completely right. what i don't get, you're a clinton guy, what i don't get is obama says jay carney says they understand they will help but they are not doing anything. there's a lot of legislative proposals, as you know, from democrats and clinton -- i mean obama is not supporting them. why? >> first of all he said as jay carney correctly pointed out he told chuck todd on msnbc he would try to keep these people in. understand this is only if you have insurance in the private market, this is only under certain circumstances that this applies. who knows. they may be able to figure a way for these people to keep it. it's not going to apply to whole lot of people anyway. obama has said the same things along the same line that president clinton has. >> i don't know. let me bring chris ruddy in. chris, first of all, bill clinton didn't hedge. bill clinton didn't say if it's the right plan or if it meets regulations. bill clinton said you should keep your promise even if it requires new law. he was very direct and very blunt
and make sure it runs smoothly. i want you all to meet pat connors. >> hello, everyone. >> don't hello us, pat. this is -- you are responsible for it now and it is not working out what a the hell are you going to do about it? >> oh. well, i'm just sort of getting acclimated to the situation. >> getting lack mated? do you know how much money we waste order this thing? how much you take some damned responsibility? get out of here. you are fired! get out! >> here is some advice from bill clinton. >> so i personally believe that even if it takes changing the law, the president should honor the commitment to the federal government made though-to-those people and let them keep what they've got. >> thanks, bubba. all right. it looks like the president was backed -- >> i'm sorry i'm laughing. >> you don't like the music. >> it was like they made it at home on a youtube individual go first let's go "south park" even though you were laughing more about bill clinton than "south park." they are going after the administration. >> right. you can look at any comedy show when obama care has been going on
what this means for their constituents, but they don't want it to succeed mainly because it is anish if the of president obama. >> rose: we conclude this evening with james toback, he is the director of a new films called "seduced and abandoned". >> and seduce is, what "seduced and abandoned" is about more than movies and money and glamor is about death and as sam jewel johnson said at the beginning of the graphic of the movie nobody is willing to live until he accepts his own mortality. and i ask everybody in the movie, i am not going to ruin it by saying what they say, american the movie i spring it on in the last ten minutes are you ready to die? >> rose: nancy pelosi and james toback when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. >> captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. > we did not work very hard, and many of us dedicate our public service to a red site, it was to, to a web site it was anish if the for affordable healthcare for all americans as a right not a privilege and that is what this
claimed all along that they didn't have the numbers. >> we don't have -- 48 hours, wn don't have that data and won't have that data on a daily ornot hourly basis for you. >> well, i don't have the numbers yet. >> how many have signed up thus far? >> fully enrolled? i can't tell you, because i don'tr know.t t >> okay, greg, they still don'to know andka they aren't projected to know any time soon. >> yeah. six people. there are more bodies inple. beckel's bed right now than that. this is the upside for cnn. it's the only number appears morgan beats modemo. amazing. almost as though you can't beas this incompetent by accident. it's like there is a secret. olympic event among bureaucratsr to see howet bad they could be, how much money they can spend to do the very worst thing 'cause nobody does this by accident! this is like incredible. it's almost inspiring how awful they are. >> dana, how could this happen? you look back at president obama, the first digital president, how well he ran his campaign. do you actually think that david axelrod would have let only six people per day donate to obam
beating the street. joe, over to you, sir. >> andrew, i don't -- 21st century fox. i think that's a mistake. you know -- >> you know, i thought it was, but -- >> how can -- it's 20th. is it a different company? >> it's outdated. >> is it a different company? >> no. >> this is the staple at 20th century fox? what is this, y2k? >> remember conan o'brien, in the year 2000 -- >> i know you don't like change. >> 21st century is a clothing store in new york, isn't it? >> century 21. >> it's a cheap clothing store. but i like it. that's where i go. >> just because the date rupert? >> yeah, i believe it was. >> i think they took a poll of the staff, either senior management or the whole place. >> and they said change it to -- >> yep. 20th century was so backwards. >> so i'm going to have to go through this again? >> in a hundred years? >> yeah. >> if you're still living -- >> i'm on the grid and i'm a cyborg. and becky changed her twitter name. yes. >>@joekernanshair is available. how do we know anthony weiner really didn't get -- you don't know whether that's his thing. you got caught.
in washington can learn a lot. i don't know if you have noticed this, but obamacare has had a couple of hiccups. we were told we had to pass this bill in order to find out what was in it. well, here we are. -- maybe tomall can jog my memory here. one of the guys who is fighting hard for this law was ruth bailey -- braley -- bruce braley. this law is doing real harm to real people. it is taking people and disrupting their lives. millions of people are getting cancellation notices. families are seeing premiums go up. thisrowd that brought us website where they had three years to prepare, $500 million crowd thats the same is poised to take over 16% of our economy -- the health care sector. did nott obama said he know any of this stuff was going to happen. thatid that he had no idea these problems were coming. we had kathleen sebelius come and say that everything was ready to go. -- if youe issue outlaw the kind of insurance people actually have, they won't be able to keep those plans. they passed a law three years ago to outlaw the kinds of insurance that people have in their surprise that people
.c. can provide. millions of americans are buying in. if you don't succeed on your own, don't worry about it not your fault. and checks will be sent to help you out. and that philosophy zaps personal motivation and creates a mind set of victimization. if the president believes the deck is stacked in favor of the rich folks, then what chance do i have add to that mind set the rise of the machines where you and i can straight create our own little worlds spend most of our leisure time playing games or texting about trivia or writing vicious or anonymous emails. we don't even have to leave the house. we can live an entirely made up world but, of course, we do have to leave the house. that's when the trouble begins. what is society doing to encourage achievement these days? nothing at all. if you are prosperous, you are a bad person the biggest problem this country has is the way we, the people, are now behaving. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. three other points of view on this. first up from boston former senator from massachusetts, a brand new fox news contributor scott
anything. >> why did it have to be snakes? >> don't answer yet. >> nobody in this room, nobody in this country, believes that republicans want to fix the website. >> protected by viper, stand back. >> could you please wrap-up. >> the american people do not want to see a kangaroo court here. >> kangaroo court is quite an accusation. >> i hope the gentleman from tennessee when he uses the term kangaroo court in the future will think better of making an accusation. >> protected by viper. >> this is a pattern that has to stop. ♪ >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. you know, i learned a long time ago in this business, if you're going to have any kind of longevity at all, you've got to have two things. you've got to have a great wife and you've got to have a loyal dog. because if you're in this business long enough, you're going to say things about people at the end of the day, those are the only people that are going to be left that love you. so tonight, i'm probably going to sever a few ties with some democrats. but i think it has to be said. now, wo
? we don't have full access and inspection of every site. only the ones that they designade designate it's okay. so why would america take that deal and open up billions? they now have time and money to ease the pressure and continue their program. >> exactly, sean. this is terrible. i think that most americans will be opposed to it. and not only those who serve you should the republican side in congress, but democratic members as well. for exampling chuck schumer here in new york. >> bob mendez in new jersey. >> i think it's terrible. and i think there will be a reaction in congress against it. >> i think john bolton has a point, though. this was about stopping israel from defending itself. if you go back to february of 2012, this administration, leon panetta told "the washington post" they're going to attack april, may or june, you don't do that to your friends, you don't betray a friend like that. at the end of march, when they were afraid they were going to attack anyway, we have stabbed them in the back repeatedly this fall. >> so israel is alone? >> well, they're negotiating wit
of the quality -- >> the worst. >> the best doctors don't go near it, is that fair? >> that's absolutely fair. >> these people are going to be ma maltreated. >> it won't collapse. you'll have expanded medicaid. a shrunken exchange that works for poor people and sicker people. it will limp along. >> bob, let me just dispose of the numbers. the numbers look disastrous. are people expecting these numbers to just continue disastro disastrous. >> the numbers have changed in terms of the number of enrollments insurance companies are getting. let me put the numbers in another context for you. 27,000 people in 36 states is 25 people per day per state. in the state of florida and the state of ohio, that's 1 person per hour per day in florida signing up for healthcare.gov. i think one of the incredible stories here that's just not being focused on and reported is how cynical this administration is to tell people to keep try g trying. goodness, they have known these numbers. they knew one person in florida or georgia was getting through and they told them to keep trying. sebelius is kind of like a bagh
to get you back into the "cnn newsroom" with don lemon. >>> hello, everyone, don lemon here in the "newsroom." back now with our live coverage. we're going to learn a lot of new things about what happened in los angeles including a new photograph of the victim. we hope to have that for you within the next hour. we'll begin, of course, in los angeles where we have just learned beefed-up security teams are monitoring l.a.x. airport police are getting lots of help one day after a gunman opened fire killing a tsa officer and bringing chaos to one of the world's busiest airports. >> today in our enhanced deployment for los angeles world airport, los angeles police department has committed additional resources. this morning i met with the federal air marshals and they're providing additional resources for us. obviously today and for the foreseeable future we'll continue our very high profile at the curbs and anywhere in those ticketing areas and anywhere on our campuses. >> we're also learning some new troubling clues emerging about the suspect 23-year-old paul ciancia. a source t
with runups like this, especially for companies who don't make money -- they have a great deal of promise but don't make money -- really back to larry's point about the internet boom and whether we're getting back to that. a lot of good features of the boom, included amazon.com and ebay, still with us today but many others are not. do you worry we're potentially repeating sinful behavior. >> one thing we learned from the past four or five years issue when we put our money to work, there's a certain risk tolerance everybody has, and markets are more aware of risk powers individually and institutions than ever before. the market in great part -- the pricing mechanism we have is developed and is decided upon by the investing public and the reply and demand ratio. so i have to believe that people getting into these things at these prices are happy to be there and happy to have the opportunity to participate or they would not be paying these prices. >> larry, without getting into the valuation of the company, whether it's worth in the mid-40s or whatever, it does raise another question about j
kept saying don't worry, if you don't have health insurance, you'll get taken care of in the emergency room. you can't have it both ways here. i do agree with david about the length of the -- i kept -- i was with a group of people on -- actually onset on a television talk show and we all of course had to stop and watch the thing and we all fairly experienced in politics and saying where is jay carney saying thank you very much ladies and gentlemen? i was shocked. i don't know of a press secretary that would have let this go on like this for any president and it should have been cut off. david is right. let me come to david on that. i thought it was strange, it was like he was out there as a sitting duck wanting to take the harpoons coming his way but for what purpose? because nobody came away thinking okay, that sorted that then. >> well, i -- it's hard to explain. i think he feels very vulnerable. i think he feels humiliated. i agree with howard. i think for the most part he has been an honest president and that's to his credits. what i disagree is his staff let him down. i'm sorry, b
letter in may of 2010 saying you don't have the team in place to execute this. it's going to fail. >> you know how the government works, correct? the government works by departments. everything in the bureaucracy is headed by a department. so the treasury department handles this, justice department hams that, the defense handles this. health and human services handle obama care because that's health. ceo is kathleen sebelius. no, stop, kelly. >> no, she stdoesn't know anythg about the website. why didn't he find somebody who does? >> that's the key. sebelius was in place. she couldn't do the job. absolutely. to this day, she has no clue about any of this. however, she's still there, right, with no assistants coming into sort all this out. >> let me make another point about ms. sebelius. she of course knew nothing about websites and that was completely bungled. but more than that, she is the one who put those regulations in place in june of 2010 that effectively eliminated the grandfathering the president was so relying upon. and for the president to come out today and say those democrats,
jersey. a ton of people talks about checks. this from jeff logan, i don't mind cash but [ music playing ] >> thank you for joining us, a little late. some of you have to get up at 4:00 in the morning. it's a terrible thing this morning. >> the right path. >> the beginning of the show, watch the show, i haven't seen the show, but the show emerged. >> two months before the election of 2004, i said, bush is bankrupting us, his foreign policy is bankrupting us, we will lose the next election and wreck the commitment i was called the rhino tlhen, now, i' being attacked saying, seriously, we shouldn't drive the beer truck off the cliff. i'm saying the same thing, i'm against big republicanism. >> you are saying these past ten years are all because we didn't listen to you? >> yeah, exactly. >> all right, good morning. it's wednesday, november 13th. you were very good. i wish you had actually changed your clothes this morning. >> oh, continuity. willie and i always say. >> i didn't foy that. >> if clothes are good enough to sleep in. >> look at you. >> hey, that's my denner from last nit. >> do
a minute. i didn't hear that. you don't have a plan? but you're out there making statements attacking the president's health care plan and you don't have a plan yourself? did you tell that to the media you're spouting your criticism? did you tell them you're empty handed? that you're all about talking down the affordable care act but you've got nothing to offer the cancer patients out there stuck without insurance or all the other people with pre-existing conditions? i have a plan which is perfect for you. it's what we used to say in the schoolyard. put up or shut up. alex wagner is the host of "now" and eugene robinson is a columnist for the "washington post" and a msnbc political analyst. it seems some of the bold print names we read when everybody's talking down health care, and it's fair enough for somebody to have clean hands to do it. you hear comments from people with no health care plan, never did have a health care plan, belong to a party that doesn't even feel a shame about having none. yet they offer it up to us in the big media as sidewalk superintendents. as people who ha
can't be the leader of it? >> i don't think it -- i don't think an independent candidate can possibly win a three-way race. if you think about it. you run a three-way race and translate to a morality of the electorial college vote. get to the house where each state gets one vote and republicans have 30 odd delegations. it's a virtual yule impossibility for the presidency. what i wish that americans elect would do is say instead of trying to get candidates to run or path and run for a job that is impossible for them to win is encourage independent candidates. people who are ceo or university presidents, community leaders to run as independents for the house and for the senate. >> yeah. >> there is nothing wrong with the senate that three or four legitimately independent senators could fix. it could go a long way. there's a structure barrier on the presidential side. there simply can't be -- >> you agree. >> that was sort of -- trying to finish my thought. that's what i'm shocked at. what where the 2014 candidates? it would be so easy -- i look at my home state of florida and w
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